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Dr. Scott Lively’s Show #4 – (Notes/Transcription)

 

(Watch Show #4 here: http://www.upnorthmedia.org/watchupnorthtv.asp?sdbfid=6128#vid )

 

Dr. Lively’s Saturday morning July 27th, 2013 Talk in Traverse City, MI., was delivered to a group of Northwest Michigan PASTORS and Christian Leaders.

 

The Talk had 2 major focuses:

 

From Genesis to Revelation:

Homosexuality as The Extreme Example

of Rebellion on the Verge of Judgment

 

and

 

Homosexualists Have Now Defeated

ALL Secular Institutions –

Now They Take Aim at the Church

 

(Part 2 of 2)

 

 

Talk to NW Michigan PASTORS   (Part 2 of 2)

 

Show #4  Table of Contents

(Watch all the Dr. Scott Lively Traverse City 2013 DEBATE/Conference Shows atwww.TCFamily.org):

 

(00min:00sec) – (03min:11sec) : TCFamily’s Northwest Michigan LOCAL INFO Introduction.

 

(03:11 – 38:17):  Dr. Scott Lively’s Talk to Northwest Michigan Pastors: Part 2of 2.

 

(38:29 – 59:40):  TCFamily LOCAL INFO – LOCAL NORTHWEST MICHIGAN SPEAKER BILL WIESNER(www.TCFamily.org) shares the last 20 minutes:  (1) 6 minute audio tape of SEEDS YOUTH DEVELOPMENT MANAGER BILL WATSON kicking TCFamily Founder Bill Wiesner out of their Public Anti-Bullying workshop.  (2) The EXTREME HEALTH RISKS and financial costs of homosexual behavior. (3) How SEEDS and the new TCAPS “OLWEUS BULLYING PREVENTION PROGRAM” and THIRD LEVEL CRISIS INTERVENTION CENTER all combine to promote homosexuality to the vulnerable TCAPS students; (4) How we should go on “offense” by modeling after the Detroit Lions’ “MATTHEW STAFFORD QUARTERBACK SNEAK”, and (5) ACTION ITEM REQUESTED to CONTACT ALL TEACHERS and ALL school staff.

 

Transcription or summary notes are pasted below:

 

(03:11)  [1-MINUTE REPEAT FROM SHOW #3 NOTE:  This Movement, this Homosexual Movement has in the space of 50 years …  Alright, think about this …  I’m 55 years old.  When I was born, homosexuality was illegal in every country of the world except for Sweden, which had decriminalized Sodomy in 1938.  Today homosexuals have more power in the legislatures and the courtrooms of the world than the Christian Church does.  Nothing, no cancer, no Social Cancer has EVER grown this fast in the History of the World!  EVER!  Nothing comes even close.  Not Darwinism; not Islam; not Marxism; not any other “ism” you can think of is anything like this.  THIS IS THE END TIMES SPIRITUAL PHENOMENA and it will not be stopped.  This is IMPLACABLE.  They NEVER stop.  They’re absolutely relentless.  Once they begin to move on … Once they come into a country to homosexualize it, THEY NEVER STOP; THEY NEVER HAVE BEEN STOPPED.  They’ve NEVER been rolled back. 

(04:12)  [BEGINNING OF NEW MATERIAL]  That’s what I was doing.  I’ve been to 30 Countries.  I’m going to places that are more conservative – more…have deeper Christian roots – like Russia and Eastern Europe.  And they are starting to put laws in place.  But even with that, they are going to fall over time, just because of the Spirit of the Age.  When the Age of Apostasy happens, it comes…Jesus described it as labor, it’s like labor, a woman in labor.  Once the contractions start, they don’t stop, right ladies?  They start, they come closer and closer together, and they get more and more intense, until the birth.  Right?  And you’re going to go through that pain that’s associated with it.  Jesus said there is going to be wars and rumors of wars and earthquakes in diverse places, and famine and pestilence.  He says that’s just the beginning of sorrows – meaning that’s the beginning of the Time; those are the first contractions.  That’s not the Great Tribulation yet.  That’s what we are in, I believe.  And that’s what we are seeing happening all around us.  And it’s getting more and more intense as time goes on.  And it’s not going to change.  It’s becoming more and closer together, more severe.  

(05:20)  This Movement that has done all this in 50 years (Right?) is the same movement that is operating in this country.  In 1969 on June 28th there was an event that happened on Christopher Street in New York, when the homosexuals rioted against the police …  You see the police came to arrest an under-aged boy, a teenage boy, who was a drag queen, a prostitute.  He would dress up in women’s clothing.  He would go and he sells himself to these homosexual men at this bar.  It was a mafia-owned bar called STONEWALL.  And the police came to arrest this kid to stop this from going on.  The homosexuals rioted against the police, drove them out into the street, and then they came from all around (this is the “gay” district) and then they drove the police into the bar and set it on fire.  Alright?  Nobody was hurt, thankfully.  But that is today celebrated as “Gay Pride Day.”  That’s what “Gay” Pride Day is.  And that’s why “Gay Pride Month” is June – It’s because the Stonewall Riot happened in that time. 

(06:22)  It was on that day that officially the Homosexual Movement shifted its over, sort of ostensible goal of “The Right to Be Left Alone”… It abandoned that.  They were using sort of civil dialog and all that.  And they became on that day, they became a militant organization.  They adopted implacable militancy. They are unappeasable.  And the goal was to take control of the entire society and remake the culture in their own image, so that every single seat of power is being held by one of their people, or by one of their surrogates, who is completely in agreement with them.

(07:05)  And they set out to do that with everything against them, and they have been successfully, they have taken down one institution after another ever since they started.  No one has been able to stop them.  They started with the American Psychiatric Association [APA] in 1973 (Can I get a glass of water?)  They took it down.  It took them about 2 years to take down the APA.  They started using Brown Shirt tactics,like let’s just say this is a gathering of psychologists and psychiatrists who are here to talk about reparative therapy – you know, helping homosexuals to come out [stop practicing homosexuality]?  They would come into the meeting.  They’d smash the windows.  They’d kick the chairs over.  They would do what they call “zapping.”  And they would just…they would shout down the speaker.  And these doctors, you know, they’re not… they’re not made…you know, their personalities are not designed for this sort of thing.  And after being subjected to that for a couple of years, they finally gave in and said, “OK, we’re going to take homosexuality out of the list of mental disorders.”  Right?  Never stopped being a mental disorder.  But politically it did.  And then the next year, they actually…the membership of the organization forced a vote because nobody was going along with this…very few people were.  And then…so they did have a vote by mail, controlled by the “gays,” and they sent out…they sent it out in such a way to get a guaranteed vote in their hand.  They’ve controlled the organization ever since. 

(08:34)  And then step by step after that they’ve goon after every single secular institution from that point forward.  They had to do that one first because homosexuality being recognized as a mental disorder was the thing that kept them out of the Schools.  It’s the thing that kept them out of the Daycare Centers, and kept them out of many places of influence.  It’s the thing that kept them out of leadership in the military and all the other places.  So they HAD to get homosexuality declared NOT a mental disorder.  And then once they did that, then they made THE BIG PUSH INTO THE SCHOOLS.  They started taking over the network.  They run the NEA now.  Right?  They’re in… they’re all through; there’s a GIGANTIC NETWORK OF HOMOSEXUAL TEACHERS in the Public Schools.  ABSOLUTELY GIGANTIC.  And they are running the classrooms themselves, and that’s why the whole “gay” agenda is being taught to all of the kids.  Right?

Word-for-word transcription STOPS HERE –  Brief summary notes from here to the end.

(09:24)  Step by step, they went after every single one of these things … : military (2 years ago); Don’t Ask Don’t Tell – they won the court cases, but then they compromised anyway.  Democrats = fast speed; Republicans = slow speed.  6 weeks ago the last organization caved: Boy Scouts.  They had their own Supreme Court case (Kennedy’s one vote out of 5 on the homosexual issue.)  It took them 13 years to get the Boy Scouts.  It was the antidiscrimination policies that took down the Boy Scouts.  Boy Scouts allowed the CEO of AT&T to placate them – it never works.  Discrimination is necessary.  When the Boy Scouts caved, the gays said:  it’s not enough!  T

(15:30)  And so what do we do? … They are now going to go after the Church.  Attacks from outside the church.  Gay theology will be the center of this whole thing.  Separation of Church and State will be disregarded now.  It will be a defensive battle, which we will lose.  The emergent church has already embraced homosexuality.  College kids have been trained in rhetoric against the Bible.  We don’t know how to respond to their arguments.  Large numbers of pastors and Christians will capitulate so as not to have to fight.  This will be a defining topic.  How many Scott Lively’s are there now in America?  There is only a handful.  It is only inertia that is conserving the consensus on the Bible.  Be ready to be persecuted.

(19:50)  The 2nd thing I want to say to you …:  even though we will lose, Jesus wants us to fight the fight.  Mt 24:25  Blessed is the servant who when his Master comes he still finds him serving.  Even though I believe we can’t turn this around, I work harder than anyone to do just that.  Our job at this point is to coalesce the believers.

(23:25)  The anti-discrimination policies based on sexual orientation is the seed … The anti-discrimination policies are how they are doing this.  SORs – Sexual Orientation Regulations.  Open sores, festering sores.  We can’t repeal it in TC, but we can amend it:  The First Amendment Supremacy Clause.  This will stop the policy from being used as a sword against Christians.  Gives them the opportunity to file lawsuits against Christians.  This Amendment guts all that.  This is a contest between the 1st Amendment and SORs.  The Public will say the 1st Amendment wins over SORs.  In the past 5-10 years, we have lost 90% of the court cases on this issue.

(30:19)  So what I want to suggest right now …  Form an Ad-Hoc Committee to start this.  Take the language just the way it is to the City Council [and TCAPS!]  We start talking about it all the time.  This is not a legally-binding petition.  (We might do that if it is legal)  One advantage is that we don’t have to give out our email list.  When we get 1000 – 2000, then we email all and tell them we will have a meeting to take these petitions to City-TCAPS.  [Scott suggests that WE MAKE THIS VERY PUBLIC, MATT, SO THAT EVERYBODY IS TALKING ABOUT IT.]

 

We do not give up.  We are NEVER going to stop.  As long as we keep this, we will be the champions of the 1st Amendment.  We want the city to recognize that the 1st Amendment is more important than this brand new category of SORs.

Oklahoma City, Springfield MO, and Nebraska are already doing this.  Make this very public. EVERYBODY should be talking about this.

(36:18)  End of Scott’s prepared talk; beginning of questions:

(36:25) – Matthew Schoech – (1)  If the church is not behind these efforts, Matt Schoech or Bill Wiesner or Paul Nepote will not do it. 

(37:27) – Scott:  What could be better for the churches than defending their 1st Amendment rights?  Now we have a come back that they cannot defeat.

 

(38:29 – 59:40):  TCFamily LOCAL INFO LOCAL NORTHWEST MICHIGAN SPEAKER BILL WIESNER(www.TCFamily.org) shares the last 20 minutes:  (1) 6 minute audio tape of SEEDS YOUTH DEVELOPMENT MANAGER BILL WATSON kicking TCFamily Founder Bill Wiesner out of their Public Anti-Bullying workshop.  (2) The EXTREME HEALTH RISKS and financial costs of homosexual behavior. (3) How SEEDS and the new TCAPS “OLWEUS BULLYING PREVENTION PROGRAM” and THIRD LEVEL CRISIS INTERVENTION CENTER all combine to promote homosexuality to the vulnerable TCAPS students; (4) How we should go on “offense” by modeling after the Detroit Lions’ “MATTHEW STAFFORD QUARTERBACK SNEAK”, and (5) ACTION ITEM REQUESTED to CONTACT ALL TEACHERS and ALL school staff.

 

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(Watch Show #4 here: http://www.upnorthmedia.org/watchupnorthtv.asp?sdbfid=6128#vid )

 

 

 

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